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	<title>Comments on: What do you call that thing?</title>
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		<title>By: The Distant Librarian</title>
		<link>http://federatedsearchblog.com/2009/05/05/what-do-you-call-that-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-26547</link>
		<dc:creator>The Distant Librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;First Impressions...&lt;/strong&gt;

I finally got around to reading a couple of posts I'd squirreled away, and they turn out to be somewhat related. Brian Mathews posts about 5 next-gen library catalogs and 5 students: their initial impressions. Important to us here at......</description>
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<p>I finally got around to reading a couple of posts I&#8217;d squirreled away, and they turn out to be somewhat related. Brian Mathews posts about 5 next-gen library catalogs and 5 students: their initial impressions. Important to us here at&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul R. Pival</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul R. Pival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last summer we redesigned our website, and the single most common complaint was that people couldn't find what we used to call "research databases" and now call "online resources".  Still considering re-naming it this summer, maybe to e-resources, but it sounds as though that won't help universally either.  Glad it's not just me though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last summer we redesigned our website, and the single most common complaint was that people couldn&#8217;t find what we used to call &#8220;research databases&#8221; and now call &#8220;online resources&#8221;.  Still considering re-naming it this summer, maybe to e-resources, but it sounds as though that won&#8217;t help universally either.  Glad it&#8217;s not just me though!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Schmid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan Schmid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We call this abstract thing "data source", since it delivers data from a specific source.
Each data source contains attributes that describe it more concrete. For example a data source of type "database" could use the protocol "JDBC" and the format "ResultSet", but these are more technical details. 

At first glance, I associate the term "database" with a relational database (since I am a software engineer). I also like the term resource or simply source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We call this abstract thing &#8220;data source&#8221;, since it delivers data from a specific source.<br />
Each data source contains attributes that describe it more concrete. For example a data source of type &#8220;database&#8221; could use the protocol &#8220;JDBC&#8221; and the format &#8220;ResultSet&#8221;, but these are more technical details. </p>
<p>At first glance, I associate the term &#8220;database&#8221; with a relational database (since I am a software engineer). I also like the term resource or simply source.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Noerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Noerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use the term "Source" (capitalised) very strictly to refer to this thing. The terms you [picked up from our site were conversational use in running text.

We use Source for precisely the reason that what we are searching is not necessarily a database. (And, in passing, I agree that a database can exist independently of the software used to manage it. But I am not trying to define "database" here.)

One immediate disqualification fro database is that, using its conventional conflation, it does not describe what a federated search system searches. There is a (very famous) database called "Medline". But it is not a Source. We have to be more precise, because the Medline 'thing' is available from at least 6 different Hosts (notice capitalisation). Each of which spins it a different way (pun intended for those of you old enough to remember "database spinners" - here called Hosts). Thus to us a Source is a combination of the data(base) and the Host making it available. There are other nuances to allow for the actual functionality and the software involved, but this is the broad brush picture.

Equally we needed something not overloaded as "database" is, because many of the things we connect to are not collections of data. They may be processing systems - think of a ILS circulation system. So we chose the more neutral "Source" (over "Resource" as it was shorter) and capitalised it for this defined meaning.

And.... it seems a reasonably well understood term. Most people are familiar with a source as something from which things flow or where things are available, so it seemed a good fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use the term &#8220;Source&#8221; (capitalised) very strictly to refer to this thing. The terms you [picked up from our site were conversational use in running text.</p>
<p>We use Source for precisely the reason that what we are searching is not necessarily a database. (And, in passing, I agree that a database can exist independently of the software used to manage it. But I am not trying to define &#8220;database&#8221; here.)</p>
<p>One immediate disqualification fro database is that, using its conventional conflation, it does not describe what a federated search system searches. There is a (very famous) database called &#8220;Medline&#8221;. But it is not a Source. We have to be more precise, because the Medline &#8216;thing&#8217; is available from at least 6 different Hosts (notice capitalisation). Each of which spins it a different way (pun intended for those of you old enough to remember &#8220;database spinners&#8221; - here called Hosts). Thus to us a Source is a combination of the data(base) and the Host making it available. There are other nuances to allow for the actual functionality and the software involved, but this is the broad brush picture.</p>
<p>Equally we needed something not overloaded as &#8220;database&#8221; is, because many of the things we connect to are not collections of data. They may be processing systems - think of a ILS circulation system. So we chose the more neutral &#8220;Source&#8221; (over &#8220;Resource&#8221; as it was shorter) and capitalised it for this defined meaning.</p>
<p>And&#8230;. it seems a reasonably well understood term. Most people are familiar with a source as something from which things flow or where things are available, so it seemed a good fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Schneider</title>
		<link>http://federatedsearchblog.com/2009/05/05/what-do-you-call-that-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-25692</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related: &lt;a&gt;Library Terms that Users Understand&lt;/a&gt; 

Terms most often cited as being misunderstood or not understood by users include...
Database
E-journals
Index
Periodical or Serial
Resource</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related: <a>Library Terms that Users Understand</a> </p>
<p>Terms most often cited as being misunderstood or not understood by users include&#8230;<br />
Database<br />
E-journals<br />
Index<br />
Periodical or Serial<br />
Resource</p>
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