Comments on: Search or authenticate first? http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/ Covers topics related to federated search and the deep web Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:14:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Jason Stirnaman http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-775 Jason Stirnaman Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:17:16 +0000 http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-775 Terry Reese and Oregon State's LibraryFind searches their Ebscohost databases prior to authentication: http://search.library.oregonstate.edu/record/search. I was very curious about this myself. When I asked him, he told me that most of the providers they've spoken with don't mind. I would also expect that full-text providers might not mind as much as index and citation-only providers. Terry Reese and Oregon State’s LibraryFind searches their Ebscohost databases prior to authentication: http://search.library.oregonstate.edu/record/search. I was very curious about this myself. When I asked him, he told me that most of the providers they’ve spoken with don’t mind.
I would also expect that full-text providers might not mind as much as index and citation-only providers.

]]> By: Jonathan Rochkind http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-687 Jonathan Rochkind Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:44:22 +0000 http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-687 PS: Your 5 option is pretty much exactly how Ex Libris Metalib works. An unauthenticated user can (and can only) search public/free resources. But Metalib doesn't distinguish between "fully public" and "public is allowed to search but not to click on results". It's either fully public, or it's not public at all, to Metalib. Again though, I think that the for-pay resource whose license would allow non-paying customers to execute a search would be rare. PS: Your 5 option is pretty much exactly how Ex Libris Metalib works. An unauthenticated user can (and can only) search public/free resources.

But Metalib doesn’t distinguish between “fully public” and “public is allowed to search but not to click on results”. It’s either fully public, or it’s not public at all, to Metalib. Again though, I think that the for-pay resource whose license would allow non-paying customers to execute a search would be rare.

]]> By: Jonathan Rochkind http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-686 Jonathan Rochkind Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:42:08 +0000 http://federatedsearchblog.com/2008/03/10/search-or-authenticate-first/#comment-686 Many of our licensed content providers that we federated search don't allow public searching. I'd say this is the rule rather than an exception. This is of course universally true of citation-only providers like Scopus. Search resulting in citations (rather than full text) is their whole service, if they gave it away for free they'd have nothing left to charge for. But even providers with full text often consider the search itself to be a for-fee service, not just the full text. Many of our licensed content providers that we federated search don’t allow public searching. I’d say this is the rule rather than an exception. This is of course universally true of citation-only providers like Scopus. Search resulting in citations (rather than full text) is their whole service, if they gave it away for free they’d have nothing left to charge for. But even providers with full text often consider the search itself to be a for-fee service, not just the full text.

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